Posturing All Blacks sent packing

There was something almost comical about the All Blacks during the second Test in Durban.

The funny part wasn’t that they couldn’t catch a cold in Durban’s wet conditions or the shambles of a game-plan that they continue to dish up under Graham ‘Cat-’o-nine-lives’ Henry.    No, the joke was what has become to the Haka.  Nobody noticed as it slowly eroded into a dance routine while Carter and McCaw were keeping together a rather tidy rugby side.  Without a good rugby side it’s just become a rather laughable pantomime.

The Haka that this team did was always respected and was known as the preamble to a bloody hard game of rugby.  The ‘war challenge’ or whatever a trademark of a mighty rugby side.

What I’m going to say here is not meant as disrespect to the Haka or to Maori people.  But who the hell are the All Blacks kidding these days?  Not only do they have two Haka’s now it’s become a syncronised dance move that is more of a joke than a challenge.

For the Springboks to know that their opposition spend hours coming up with new ideas for the little rigmarole must be a source of great amusement.  You could see it on Bakkies face.  Bismarck couldn’t keep his smile to himself.  The All Blacks in front of the mirror trying to make the veins in their necks stick out a little further or seeing how far they can stick their tongues out.  It’s a bloody joke.

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Piri Weepu couldn’t scare my grandmother in a dark alley.  Seriously guys.  Do you really think Fourie du Preez is frightened of a guy who plays flyhalf and scrumhalf equally badly just because he walks around screaming before the game?  Or do you think that perhaps he’s actually finding the whole thing quite amusing?  I’m going for the latter.

Maybe the forwards should get together and spend some of the time they waste on the haka rather working on their lineouts - which are diabolical.

Alternatively they could watch a tape of the All Blacks of the nineties and see what a truly fearsome Haka looked like.  It looked like a bunch of rugby players going through a tradition.  It certainly didn’t looked like the amateur dramatics society putting on their Christmas performance of the Lord of the Rings.

Or they could just wait for Ali Williams to come back from injury to make the joke complete.

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22 Responses to “Posturing All Blacks sent packing” »»

  1. Comment by Rqd2 | 08/03/09 at 12:44 pm

    You’re right! They did look a bit stupid… The new thing shouldn’t even be called the haka, it should be called the “we’re pretending to do a haka while stupidly dancing… Thing…”

  2. Comment by youliedtometappe | 08/03/09 at 12:50 pm

    Harsh, but fair.

  3. Comment by BigWelshRich | 08/03/09 at 1:38 pm

    This pre match posturing has had its day and it’s ridiculousness is amplified when the team that performs it plays so badly. They’d be better off spending their time practising their line out drills as that part of their game is way behind the Boks.

  4. Comment by Anonymous | 08/03/09 at 2:00 pm

    The AB’s have had 2 bad games! Yes, we have played well as a team and are beginning to achieve the potential this team has always promised.

    But we still have 4 games left to play and only then can we claim to be the best. We will all look very silly, if come the end of the season and we stand with only the 2 wins out of 6!!

  5. Comment by Rqd2 | 08/03/09 at 2:24 pm

    What was wrong with the old haka anyway? It was cool, it worked, and most importantly, the whole team, and the whole of New Zealand knew it…

  6. Comment by LionShark | 08/03/09 at 3:20 pm

    Anonymous, I totally agree with you. I hope that the Bok’s and coaches also take heed of this warning.

    I also hope that the lack of backline movements is due to the fact that the plan would be to do what it takes to win the 3N, and then spread it wide, other than doing it the other way around as we did last year. After all, so much possession, and no tries, this should surely have warning bell’s going, shouldn’t it?

  7. Comment by tanx | 08/03/09 at 3:36 pm

    bwahahah!! rather funny indeed. they spend so much energy on the haka, it’s no wonder theyr’e toasted before the kick off.

  8. Comment by tanx | 08/03/09 at 3:37 pm

    does anyone remember that stupid zulu dance we did some yrs back to counter the haka- now that was stupid!

  9. Comment by Anonymous | 08/03/09 at 4:09 pm

    For starters, the haka should never be “danced” unless its against a credible opposition…

    Imagine the haka was reserved for only teams that had beaten them in the previous encounter… You would only see the haka a couple of times a year… At least reseve it for a decent team… Not one which you can or have in the previous encouter put 30-40 points over.

    That said, when used properly the haka gives an unfair psycological advantage…

    except for the boks.. nothing fires up an afrikaaners blood like a little trible dancing hey…

  10. Comment by Anonymous | 08/03/09 at 5:22 pm

    Let’s reserve the criticism until after the 3N. I think we’re getting a bit ahead of ourselves at the moment, albeit I’m over the moon about our victories.

    I think the best people to remark on the Haka should be a Kiwi, particularly a Maori.

    Personally I think the Haka is awesome and I didn’t read into it the way it was perceived by it appears quite a few people including Gareth.

    Let’s kick arse in New Zealand and do the boasting then. That’s where the true test lies.

  11. Comment by Anonymous | 08/03/09 at 5:27 pm

    I think this entire article is in piss poor taste. The haka is part of the New Zealand culture. They have been doing the Haka since 1884. That’s far too long to be excluded just because some below average editor thinks it’s become a farce.

    Who the hell do you think you are “advising” probably the greatest rugby nation in history to “Drop the dance act”? Really I honestly hope to God any Kiwi, or any foreigner in fact, reads this and puts us all in the same basket. I will agree that “Kapa o Pango” is not the Haka we want to see but it’s not for us as a spectator to decide which one we should see.

    The Haka is older than the South African rugby union which played it’s first international game in 1891.

    And as for Anonymous’ comments above, who would you deem as credible opposition? Top 3 in the world? Top 5? Top 10? Might I point out that in the last 10yrs SA have been as low as 7th in the world and as low as 6th in the last 5yrs. If I was Scotland, knowing that I was going out to give everything for my country, for my sport and for the love of the game and NZ didn’t “Deem me credible opposition” then what’s the point in playing them?

    Do half of you even think about what you put down before you do it? It’s easy to sit at the top and look down but how quickly you all forget getting hammered 19 - 0 by the team you all judge to be “doing a dance routine”!!

    After reading this article from the editor, I must say I’m a little ashamed of the attitude. I am proud to be a Bok fan from PMB but your comments are unwarrented. You owe this tremendous rugby nation (possibly our only real competition at the moment) an appology for your total disrespect to what can only be dicribed as a international treasure, unique to the sport we all love.

  12. Comment by Anonymous | 08/03/09 at 5:56 pm

    sigh ur missing the point, he said the haka of old was impressive less practised and more of an ameatur rugby challenge, now days it does just look like a dance. the haka on sat was unimpressive, say what you want about tradition ect. but the fact remains it wouldnt have scared any1 y must the editor now lie out of respect to the abs?

  13. Comment by Anonymous | 08/03/09 at 7:57 pm

    Are you joking??? The haka pre Buck Shelford was abysmal. They looked more embarrased than proud. 1985 is when the ferocity came to the haka. Maybe it’s just cause I’m old enough to have memories of the 80’s rebel tours and late 70’s.

    The haka is not only a dance to instill fear in the opposition, Haka are performed for various reasons: for amusement, as a hearty welcome to distinguished guests, or to acknowledge great achievements or occasions.

    And it seems you are missing my point…. Just because you don’t like the Kapa o Pango does not mean they should stop it. Geez… where do you get off critisising the AB’s for the Haka? Who cares how much time they spend practicing the thing. It’s their culture…

    They put up a good opposition everytime we play them. They don’t even have the best 2 locks in NZ playing - I refer to Chris Jack and Ali Williams. You want real lineout opposition then try those 2!! Lineouts are their forte` just like our boys, Bakkies and big Vic. How would you feel if it was Andries Bekker and Johan Muller getting smashed in the line outs?

    It was the one weak point of thier game apart from conceeding penelties. Stephen Donald is no Dan Carter. Personally I think you should keep your opinions to yourself until the 2 best teams actually play each other.

    For the first time in 10yrs we are well and truely better than the AB’s and all you can come up with is lose the Haka?? Get over yourself, honestly….

  14. Comment by Gareth Rosslee | 08/04/09 at 8:28 am

    Just to set the record straight to all those who thought I was saying the Haka is useless or a waste of time OR that I was saying that it was simply a dance move.

    I think the Haka is great, a wonderful tradition. I also don’t think the Boks have won the Tri-Nations by any stretch of the imagination.

    What has bothered me - ever since the ‘throat slitting al pongo’ or whatever it’s called - is wondering how long they practice their haka for. How many meetings they have to decide which Haka they are going to do.

    And that’s all fine when you are winning, but it makes you look like a bunch of tossers when you losing. Or when Piri Weepu is you big scary warrior.

  15. Comment by Anonymous | 08/04/09 at 10:03 am

    Haha Piri Weepu is a joke…

  16. Comment by Anonymous | 08/04/09 at 10:19 am

    Respect?!? Why should the pacific islanders get an opportunity to do a wardance before a test match and waste our valuable time. I go to the stadium to watch the game, not to go and see men sticking out their tongues and pull funny faces. NZ even sang two anthems the other day, one moari and one in english. Talk about white guilt…..:) Question- Is a non moari player allowed to lead the Haka?

    So what if it’s tradition- WE DONT CARE.

    I also liked the haka from the nineties more. Instead of adding value to the whole test match experience, it has now become a laughable side show.

    We all used to be still before the game to listen to it and admire the tradition. Now we cant wait for it to be over. Listen to the crowd at the staduim. They talk, boo and jeer while it’s being performed. Not out of disrespect, but irritation!!!!

    The rest of the rugby world is saying- Get on with it already!!!!

    Well at least it gives me time to go to the loo before the game and get another beer.

  17. Comment by Gron | 08/04/09 at 11:55 am

    As said above, the problem is we’ve seen it too often. Perhaps go back to using it for NH tours only.

  18. Comment by Anonymous | 08/04/09 at 2:04 pm

    A part blood Maori has to lead the Haka. The last time NZ did not do the Haka was during the 2007 RWC against Scotland. There were no part blood Maori players selected that day. They did infact do the Haka in the change room before the game, behind closed doors. I was at the game with my wife(an Aukland girl). The islanders are all Polynesian by decent and there for have very strong cultural beliefs. Why shouldn’t they do it? Because you don’t want to see it? Go get a beer then and keep your mouth shut.

    Point of note - God defend New Zealand - the NZ national anthem - has been sung since 1978. English was only added in 1979. You want them to sing in just 1 language then how about we only sing in 1 language? How would you feel if the NZ press condemned Inkosi sikelela for being inappropriate and told us to sing just 1 language? Stop thinking about the Haka as a dance to intimidate and maybe start thinking about it as part of their National anthem, their national identity. We are culturally unique as South Africans and condemn the ouside world when we get branded with tags, yet we seem very quick to accept this attitude when not directed at us.

    Gareth Rosslee - Maybe you should have someone read your articles before you publish them. You have come across as a bit of an ignorant fool.

    Piri Weepu leads the Haka as he is the most full blooded Maori. He is a fantastic footballer. Ineffective against the likes of Fourie DuPreez but still you forget, he did guide the Hurricanes to a Semi final of the S14. Better placed than 4 of our 5 teams in the comp.Our go to guy Ruaan Pienaar, who is by no means the best scrum half or fly half at the Sharks let alone in the country yet we overlook this and not a word is said. NZ didn’t click. I hope your article doesn’t bite you in the arse…

    Last year all we had to do was win our home games and we would have won. We still finished last!!!!

  19. Comment by Anonymous | 08/04/09 at 2:17 pm

    Thanks for the info. Didn’t know that.

    I just dont see the point of singing two anthems and doing an different version of the haka that the whole world admires. The whole show is becoming a bit boring. The ceremony around it has been lost to most rugby fans. Maybe it’s because we play each other too much.

    Well done Gareth. You dared to raise an issue that a lot of rugby fans have with this whole side show. Free speech is a bugger.

    -bbvb

  20. Comment by aniaback | 08/05/09 at 10:28 am

    Dude, it’s ONE anthem. ONE. Otherwise, by the same token, South Africa has three anthems. Pay attention now…

    Personally, I find the Haka very powerful. Especially Kapa O Pango. And I find “God Defend New Zealand” very powerful, in both languages. It’s right up there for me with “Flower of Scotland”. I think the biggest boo-boo of Saturday afternoon was the fact that our anthem was sung first. Um, WTF? Common courtesy and a whole bunch of precedent dictates that visitors get their chance first… Anyway, no matter. I’m happy the Boks are winning, and I’m equally as happy that the Haka continues to entertain me. Piri might be no Tana Umaga when it comes to leading the Haka but he’s a great player…and if I didn’t know for a fact that he’s a fairly relaxed and nice guy, I personally would not want to run into him in a dark alley.

  21. Comment by Anonymous | 08/05/09 at 12:18 pm

    Well said Aniaback - was starting to think I was the only one defending the Haka!!!

  22. Comment by Anonymous | 08/07/09 at 11:49 pm

    How come they all do the haka thing but hardly any of them sing the NATIONAL Anthem? Is it because they are trying to remember their dance moves? The haka lost its shine when every tom dick and harry started doing it at every sporting event for no good reason, ridiculous. To galvanize a side and put real emotion in what they do, get some of the Islander boys to accept their adopted country’s anthem and sing it like they mean it. I love watching the Boks sing the anthem, i get choked up everytime. Real emotion & real meaning. That being said I like watching the Haka done before a test match, it is good value.

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